Bondee
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Post by Bondee on Sept 5, 2024 14:02:12 GMT
I've heard it pronounced the way Amanda describes, and as "deb-yew". I'd guess that "day-bew" is closer to correct because in its original French it's pronounced "day-boo". NB, I may be wrong because I'm relying on an almost 40 year-old memory of schoolboy French here. That's how I've always pronounced it..... Me too, although before I'd heard it spoken, I thought it was pronounced a bit like debit.
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Post by suze on Sept 5, 2024 17:08:19 GMT
Debut is an unusual word, because it's one of rather few which are pronounced genuinely differently in Britain and Australia.
"DAY-bew" (IPA /ˈdeɪbju:/) is standard in Britain; "da-BOO" (/dəˈbu:/) is standard in Australia (and in parts of North America, but it's not universal). The speaker that Amanda heard was using the British pronunciation. Was she British?
The French pronunciation isn't quite either. Stress works rather differently in French than in English, but English-speaking ears perceive French words as being stressed on the last syllable. In IPA that gives us /deˈby/. The first syllable is more like "de" (as if you were going to say debit and stopped two letters in) than "day", and the second syllable uses the /y/ vowel which is absent from English. That's the one which is written <ü> in German.
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Post by amanda on Sept 5, 2024 23:02:37 GMT
I don't think she was British though it was our international tv channel SBS.
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Post by crissdee on Sept 6, 2024 18:31:11 GMT
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Post by crissdee on Sept 6, 2024 21:52:52 GMT
I don't know if Tourette's Syndrome can cause catastrophic dyslexia in it's sufferers, if so, I apologise to this person, but this really is amongst the most epic displays of poor spelling I have ever encountered;
"Slip on cerb broke my leag my gf and m8s thort o was sprand it and being silly caryed me to his house i had rock port shoes on he tuck off my shoe and my foot spins round and my bone popt out my chuin my gf trou up and my m8 rang 999 it tuck 3 injustice just to came me doune i keep saying sorry im so sorry n past out to this day its 50 50 off leeping my lega grat gf that lookt after me go beles ruth xxxx thsnk you. I naw have turrets sindrom for life coz I slept off a cerd"
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Bondee
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Post by Bondee on Sept 6, 2024 21:53:04 GMT
From an ebay listing for a GameBoy Pocket... From another of the same seller's listings...
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Post by crissdee on Sept 9, 2024 22:16:11 GMT
Good old FB Marketplace;
Someone has some "stationary office supplies"
Good to know they won't move around as you're using them...
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Post by crissdee on Sept 10, 2024 14:08:36 GMT
Job advert...
"We pride ourselves on our work and are looking for someone who also takes pride in there work and would like to hone their skills."
Not quite proud enough....
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Bondee
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Bearer of Ye olde Arcane Dobbynge Sticke.
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Post by Bondee on Sept 11, 2024 12:56:26 GMT
Another ebay listing...
What exactly made these marks? A pickaxe? A pneumatic drill? Dynamite?
Something else in that one that I'm noticing a lot of recently... "aswell"
I also see "alot"... err... a lot.
Have we become so lazy that we can't be bothered to hit the space bar anymore?!
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Post by tetsabb on Sept 11, 2024 13:25:58 GMT
Have we become so lazy that we can't be bothered to hit the space bar anymore?!
Clearlywehave
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Post by amanda on Sept 13, 2024 23:01:44 GMT
FB comment about an article on flies/maggots in supermarket meats -
They're not the fresh food people anymore, lost that when they started putting them perspectives in the meats.
Took me awhile to realise it may be preservatives?
And another FB comment: I was really descustard.
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Post by crissdee on Sept 14, 2024 7:52:46 GMT
That last one is fantastic!
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Bondee
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Post by Bondee on Sept 14, 2024 9:44:00 GMT
That's another one I see "alot".
Awhile doesn't mean the same as a while.
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Post by suze on Sept 14, 2024 21:02:51 GMT
Neither does in to necessarily mean the same as into. The management called Bondee in to wield his dobbing stick, and when he walked into the room Jenny told him who needed dobbing. This is rather often gotten wrong both ways around, and there was a time - it was around 1960 - when the English teaching contingent tended to object to into.
Unfortunately, there is no such word as outof, and perhaps there ought to be. The dobbing stick is made mostly out of wood, but Bondee had to come outof his house to wield it.
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Post by crissdee on Sept 17, 2024 10:39:45 GMT
Not sure if this is actually poor English, but it is certainly the first time I have seen that word form...
"I mean hitler didn't pay much mind to the plight of the people he genocided"
I'm not getting the wiggly line underneath, so the computer thinks its ok...
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Post by suze on Sept 17, 2024 17:31:55 GMT
The word genocide was invented by a Pole named Rafał Lemkin in 1943. He actually used it first in Polish (ludobójstwo), and it was a year later that he decided to go half Greek and half Latin when translating the word into English. The word was originally used only by political scientists, and it wasn't until the 60s and Frank Herbert (he of Dune fame) that it gained a wider currency.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that we can blame American poltiicians for most things, and so it is for the use of genocide as a verb. The first verb citation comes from a Committee of the House of Representatives in 1986. Only a handful of dictionaries recognise the verb, but the OED is among them. I don't think I much like it, but it's probably a losing battle.
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